HW60 said:Full-text search in my user dictionary now seems to work like in other chinese dictionaries and finds matches when only part of a word is entered. So Pleco almost does what I would expect, but I do not really understand the way Pleco stops searching. I tried entering "anders" (=different) in my German user dictionary: With "a" Pleco finds "a" and "a)" and "(A)" and ".u.a." and others. With "an" I get "an" and "an-" and "(an)" and others. With "and" Pleco finds "and". With "ande" Pleco finds "Andenken" (!) (first partial match), with "ander" Pleco finds "andere" but not "anders".
dustpuppy said:Is it possible to have the Flashcard, Reader and OCR "launchers" be regular apps, so that they can be added to SwypePad ? This is particularly important for the reader, as I frequently need to switch tasks (from whatsapp or SMS to the Pleco Reader to check my spelling), and the best way to do that is using SwypePad. This used to work, when the launchers were available as a separate package on the market.
For me a search list which has only one result even in my own user dictionary only ("ande" only finds "Andenken", while I am searching vor "anders") seems to be a little bit useless. Even one letter before the complete input ("ander" when I am searching for "anders") I do not find the word, but get a list of 9 results with "andere". And actually I do not see the problem with long lists - there is only room for about 6 results on one screen, and if I do not like what I see on this screen I enter the next letter and still know that there are several results. But - in the example - having entered "ande" I am sure that a get a comparatively short list including the result I wanted to see. If I am looking for the word "Andersartigkeit", I have to enter almost the whole word and probably get the auto-completed word "andersartig" as soon as I entered "andersa", but only after entering "andersartigk" the result is finally presented.mikelove said:basically, in order to avoid giving you an utterly befuddling / useless list of search results when searching multiple dictionaries at once, we take whichever word is alphabetically earliest across all dictionaries and "auto-complete" your query to that.
HW60 said:For me a search list which has only one result even in my own user dictionary only ("ande" only finds "Andenken", while I am searching vor "anders") seems to be a little bit useless. Even one letter before the complete input ("ander" when I am searching for "anders") I do not find the word, but get a list of 9 results with "andere". And actually I do not see the problem with long lists - there is only room for about 6 results on one screen, and if I do not like what I see on this screen I enter the next letter and still know that there are several results. But - in the example - having entered "ande" I am sure that a get a comparatively short list including the result I wanted to see. If I am looking for the word "Andersartigkeit", I have to enter almost the whole word and probably get the auto-completed word "andersartig" as soon as I entered "andersa", but only after entering "andersartigk" the result is finally presented.
ckatt said:I'm having an Ocr problem in both .3 and .4. Other Oct will give me the definition for one word .after that it will scan other words and auto pause when it has a match but no definition is displayed. I first noticed this on .4 so I then reverted back to .3 and had the same problem..2 is ok though.
We could update the APKs, but we were actually hoping that this could be made to work with our new shortcuts, particularly now that we've updated them to work in other gesture launchers like GMD - is there no option in SwypePad to open an app shortcut?
dustpuppy said:There is something called "app shortcuts" in SwypePad, but the pleco launchers don't seem to be available. What's the best way of resolving this issue? Any chance you could give SwypePad a try ? The basic app is free.
dustpuppy said:When adding a shortcut onto one of the SwypePad "slots", are you able to find Pleco Flashcards ? I can't, whether I choose to look in "Apps" or "shortcuts". I can post some screenshots if needed.
I would not sort non-auto-complete lists even if the results come from different dictionaries. With only 2 or 3 letters entered, the total list can have 10000 entries or more. The user will not scroll, but add a letter in the input field. I think it is important that the user is confident that the word he is searching is in the dictionary. Sometimes a word that is written slightly different is in the dictionary, but you resign searching because you have already a short list without the word (that was the reason that I thought user dictionaries are not included in the Chinese Dictionaries Group). I think auto-complete is not natural - the user expects the list he gets is complete, but he only gets a list with the first auto-completed word of the first dictionary searched.mikelove said:But then what order do we present the results in? There could be a lot of scrolling involved if we alphabetize them by the matching word, for example. Also, in a merged search at least there's a considerable performance cost to loading / sorting / merging every entry that contains a word that starts with "ande," and since merged search is now the default / is likely to be the only type of search that most users use, making those searches slower for the sake of not having to type quite so much of an ambiguous search query seems like a poor tradeoff.HW60 said:For me a search list which has only one result even in my own user dictionary only ("ande" only finds "Andenken", while I am searching vor "anders") seems to be a little bit useless.
We could add auto-complete lists as an option, though - wouldn't be too difficult: it would be jarring enough that I don't think we'd want to make it a default, but for users who didn't mind the interface flickering back and forth between a list of exactly matching results and a list of possible matches that start with what you typed, it might save a few extra letters.
Yes, I found the option and there is indeed a Pleco Flashcards shortcut - swiped to bring it up, selected an empty slot, chose "Link portal 1 to" "Shortcuts" and "Pleco Flashcards" is one of the options available.
If you're not seeing it, make very sure you're running version 2.4.3 or later of Pleco.
dustpuppy said:Is it possible to have the Flashcard, Reader and OCR "launchers" be regular apps, so that they can be added to SwypePad ? This is particularly important for the reader, as I frequently need to switch tasks (from whatsapp or SMS to the Pleco Reader to check my spelling), and the best way to do that is using SwypePad. This used to work, when the launchers were available as a separate package on the market.
HW60 said:I would not sort non-auto-complete lists even if the results come from different dictionaries. With only 2 or 3 letters entered, the total list can have 10000 entries or more. The user will not scroll, but add a letter in the input field. I think it is important that the user is confident that the word he is searching is in the dictionary. Sometimes a word that is written slightly different is in the dictionary, but you resign searching because you have already a short list without the word (that was the reason that I thought user dictionaries are not included in the Chinese Dictionaries Group). I think auto-complete is not natural - the user expects the list he gets is complete, but he only gets a list with the first auto-completed word of the first dictionary searched.
3x13 said:I see pinyin and translation and want to get the character right. So I press the brush-button to write the char, scribble it down and reveal the entire card. I then mark it as correct/incorrect and the next card is shown. But it's like it is in the background, behind the input field for handwriting. And I cannot close the handwriting.
mfcb said:the only problem with the shortcuts is, that there is no difference between ocr live and still mode, default seems to be live mode (when used in swipepad)
I think a list is useful as long as it contains all words which match the actual input field. When the list is (too) long, the user can add a letter to shorten the list. As long as the list is not empty the word he searches can still be in the dictionary, and he can add more letters and shorten the list more - entering more letters when the user still has a chance to find the word is not the problem.mikelove said:We have to do some sorting or else the list is utterly useless - the word you want might be there but might be several pages down, and there's no pattern (alphabetical order, i.e.) to allow you to easily find it.
i have no big problem with that, hehe, just tried several ways to get it do it, but did not manage... (create still shortcut after live, dont create live one, ...)mikelove said:mfcb said:the only problem with the shortcuts is, that there is no difference between ocr live and still mode, default seems to be live mode (when used in swipepad)
We actually didn't consider that a major issue because we assumed that there wasn't much point to having a still OCR launcher when you can simply launch the built-in photo gallery app and share your photo with Pleco from that - do you find that significantly more awkward?